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Conditional Relations, trans: U Narada Mula Patthana Sayadaw

  • Deals with 22 Triplets and 100 couplets of the Dhammasangani to show how causes and effects are related...
  • condition - paccaya - that which must precede the object as a cause.
  • "when each of the seven section are taken as reference, by turns, there is a set of 7 x 7 = 49 questions for root condition alone. For the 24 conditions taken singly, therefore, there are 49 x 24 = 1,176 questions. From this it can be judged that the number of quesitons for the whole fo the Patthana must be of a very high order. According to the Commentary, the figure is 404,948,533,248 and the Subcommentary, 388,778,713,344. In the Pali text, however, all the questions are not included, but only thouse that are necessary for illustrating the types of questions. These are given at the beginning of the "dependent" chapter. If all these were put in print, it would need 3 crores of books of 400 pages each." (xv)
  • Certain states are implied but not covered since their state cannot arise. These are paradoxes. A state "cannot" be faultless and faulty, or faultless, faulty and indeterminate; they can only be Faultless, faulty, indeterminate, faultess and interdeminate, or faultless and determinate.
  • The reduction continues to prove that for the set of 49 questions referred to above, only nine answers are produced.
  • [The proceedure seems to be first to establish a structure, then to whittle away from this structure logical, structural, impossibilities within that structure. The abhidhamma is thus one massive database table purged of its paradoxical elements. Thus we are left with a reduction of a logical table to its practical resultants. The originary elements of this table therefore produce by causal necessity all the resultants of its tabulation. The fulcrum of refutation therefore should be placed either 1) on the structuring of the table or 2) on its primary (the primacy of its) elements.]
  • keeps using the word conascent to mean what?
  • [I surrender. The introduction offers only a schematic equally as unreadable as the text. I made it through Finnigan's Wake, but this is like reading faith-based algebraeic proofs]

Conditional Relations:

Enneumeration of the 24 conditions
  1. Root Condition
  2. Object Condition
  3. Predominance
  4. Proximity
  5. Contiguity
  6. Conascence
  7. Mutuality
  8. Dependence
  9. Strong-Dependence
  10. Prenascence
  11. Postnascence
  12. Repetition
  13. Kamma
  14. Resultant
  15. Nutriment
  16. Faculty
  17. Jnana
  18. Path
  19. Associaton
  20. Dissociation
  21. Presence
  22. Absence
  23. Disappearance
  24. Non-Disappearance
  1. Hetu Paccayo
  2. Arammana Paccayo
  3. Adhipati
  4. Anantara
  5. Samanantara
  6. Sahajata
  7. Annamanna
  8. Nissaya
  9. Upanissaya
  10. Purejata
  11. Pacchajata
  12. Asevana
  13. Kamma
  14. Vipaka
  15. Ahara
  16. Indriya
  17. Jnana
  18. Magga
  19. Sampayutta
  20. Vippayutta
  21. Atthi
  22. Natthi
  23. Vigata
  24. Avigata
  • "visible object base is related to eye-consciousness element and its associated states by object condition; sound-base is related... odour... taste...tangible object... visible... all states are related to mind-consciousness element and its associated states by object condition." (2)
  • Predominance condition: desire, effort, consciousness, investigating wisdom is related to the states assoc. w/ inv. wisdom, and the matter produced thereby, by predominance condition.
  • Proximity condition: eye-consciousness are related to mind element, mind element and its associated states are related to mind-consciousness by proximity condition, same for ear- nose-, tongue-, body-; preceeding faultless [listening now to The Damned, into my second beer, going for a smoke...] states are related to subsequent faultless states, preceding faultless to subsequent indeterminate states...
  • [okay I know already that I'm going to fail to read this book (pg 4)]
  • "at the moment of conception mentality and materiality are mutually related by conascence condition, dependence condition, by presence condition" (5-6)
  • "the material states are related to the immaterial states by dissociation condition (and vice versa)"(9)
  • okay, so this all makes sense. Its just breaking down the Dhamma according to the standard modes by logical necessity...
  • [okay, I may make it thru this after all - 16 - its just one massive algorythem -beer three/Iron Maiden]
  • {do or die... won't you burn into flame fly to win aces high!!!}
  • "at the moment of conception, dependant on one resultant indeterminate aggregate, arise three aggregates and {kamma-produced matter} {(heart-) base}; dependant on three aggregates, arise one aggregate and {kamma-produced matter} {(heart-)base}; depending on two aggregates arise two aggregates and {kamma-produced matter} {(heart-)base}; depending on aggregates arise (heart-) base; dependent on (heart-) base arise aggregates." (27 and 28, 31). I don't pretend this is only where such a formula occurs. But the only references grounded to an actual moment in the living being are references such as these. I parenthesized where both occur independently in formulae... both end the same in the general case whereby simply "aggregates" arise.
  • Okay, new methodology.  I'm skimming through for difference.  There are certain sections I will cite next where suddenly its not formulaic; usually in relation to the "object" condition.
  • Okay its all stuff like "Resultant indeterminate or functional indeterminate roots are related to their associated aggregates and mind produced matter by root condition.... up to (142), when suddenly:

    "Faultless states are related to Faultless state by object condition.

    After having offered the offering, having undertaken the precept, having fulfilled the duty of observance, one reviews it.  One reviews such acts formerly well done.  Having emerged from jnana, one reviews the jnana.  Learners review change-of-lineage.  They review purification.  Learners, having emerged from Path, review the Path.  Learners or common worldlings practice insight into the impermanency, suffering and impersonality of the faultless state.  By the knowlege of penetration into others' minds they know the faultless mind of the other being.

    Faultless "infinity of space" is related to faultless "infinity of consciousness" by object condition.  Faultless "nothingness" is related to faultless "neither-perception-nor-not-perception" by object condition.

    Faultless aggregates are related to knowlege of supernormal power, knowlege of past existences, knowlege of rebirths according to one's kamma, knowlege of future existences by object condition.

    Faultless state is related to faulty state... "(142)

    Breakthrough.  You need to view the book this way....

Eneumeration of the conditions:

Analytical Exposition of the conditions:

Question chapter:

1. Conditions

  • By ones (by root, by object, by predominance [singly])
    1. Root, etc.: faultless
    2. faulty
    3. indeterminate
    4. faultless and indeterminate
    5. faulty and indeter.
    6. faultless and faulty
    7. faultless, faulty, and indeterminate
  • By twos (by root and object, by root and predominance, etc [all cond. taken as pairs])
  • By threes (by root, object and predominance, root object and proximity, etc)
  • and so for up to one "By twentyfour", or "all conditions"

2. conditions: negative (not-root, etc.)
3: conditions: positive
4: conditions: positive-negative
5: conditions: negative-positive

Answers: [begins on page 22!]

I. Faultless Triplet

  1. Dependent
  2. Conascent
  3. Conditioned
  4. Supported
  5. Conjoined
  6. Associated
  7. Investigation* pgs 141-306 (A-F = 119 pgs; G = 165 pgs)

II. Feeling Triplet

  1. Dependent
  2. Conascent
  3. Conditioned
  4. Supported
  5. Conjoined
  6. Associated
  7. Investigation* pgs 331-361 (A-F = 15; G = 30)

III. Resultant Triplet

  1. Dependent
  2. Conascent
  3. Conditioned
  4. Supported
  5. Conjoined
  6. Associated
  7. Investigation* pgs. 399-428 (A-F = 38; G = 30)

IV. Clinging Triplet

  1. Dependent
  2. Conascent
  3. Conditioned
  4. Supported
  5. Conjoined
  6. Associated
  7. Investigation* pgs 455-502  (A-F = 27; G = 57)

V. Corrupt

  1. Dependent
  2. Conascent
  3. Conditioned
  4. Supported
  5. Conjoined
  6. Associated
  7. Investigation* pgs 505-526  (A-F = 3; G =20)
  • moving on..."Learners or Common worldlings enjoy and take delight in the faultless state.  Taking it as object, arises lust, arises wrong view, arises doubt, arises restlessness, arises grief.  When the faulty state has ceased, the resultant arises as registering." (143)
  • "By the strong-dependence condition of wisdom , one tortures oneself , tortures oneself fully, experiences the suffering caused by searching." (160)
  • At 332 we repeat the formula of  142, but with the addition of "with the mind associated with pleasant feeling"  The duality of painful/pleasant feeling is the formula instead of faultless/faulty states. also neither painful nor pleasant.
  • "By the natural-strong dependence of hate, one with mind associated with pleasant feeling offers the offering... develops the attainment, with the mind associated with pleasant feeling takes the property of others which has not been given... plunders town markets... delusion... By the strong dependence of body consciousness accompanied by pain... etc. by pleasure... etc."
  • by 347, back to undeveloped lists.
  • [This had to be the most mind-numbing translation job ever...]

Here ends volume one.  Nothing much is said in 526 pages of much value IMHO


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